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I know you're all gonna read this and just be like "Jesus, fuck that Madin guy, they're still clearly a card carrying Brotherhood member" and 1) I'm not and 2) this is important.

I don't comment on social media much or anything but there's this one lady that's being going viral on tiktok lately. Her name is Ayame and she is fuuuuuucked. So the conservatives love her.

[embedded video of a woman speaking, saying "I realize that I ask much of my fellow mutants, but we must establish limits on those perceived to be limitless. Society can only function with boundaries and rules, and we must continue to work to find a way to be a part of it; to not press so hard against those markers as to disturb the peace."]

You don't have to agree with me but it's important that you know about this. People like her? They want us back in the box. Limited. Tame. They want us to be fully managed by humans so that we're never a threat.

We don't get mutant liberation by listening to what they have to say.

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Anyone wishing to say unkind things about Madin and that they are 'still a card carrying member of the Brotherhood' should first come and speak to me.

And by 'speak to me' I mean 'walk face first into my electrified fist repeatedly'.

Trying to be respectable enough for bigots is a fool's game. The bigot has not used logic to come to their position, logic cannot be used to convince them otherwise. The most blandly inoffensive member of a hated subgroup will never be anything but a slur to bigots.

(this is not to say that bigots cannot change, but it takes much more than respectability and a logical argument)

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Thanks. Seriously, Thanks

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While neither of us is Brotherhood anymore, there is still a bond of shared experience, and anyone with an issue with you should be reminded that you are not alone in this.

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My fist too.

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Do we want mutant liberation? I wasn’t aware we were prisoners.

The majority is always going to want people to toe lines, what else is new?

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You realise that when we talk mutant liberation, we're talking equal rights and safety for mutants?

So, yes, we want it.

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Equal rights and safety for mutants 100%. We’re on the same page there.

But to do that we’ve got to work out what limits we’re willing to live within.

You can’t say someone being scared that the crazy person has the power to turn out all lights forever with a good enough EMP is being unreasonable.

But that doesn’t mean they get to throw us in a box or make us live only where they tell us we can live.

Far as I remember the speech, Xavier’s dream was about finding the middle ground.

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Do you know what liberation even means in this context? Didn't you go to college?

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You really should give yourself a break. You're too hard on yourself.

And also fuck prettying ourselves up to be "acceptable" by bigot standards

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uuuuuuuuugh that b and if you say anything she gets her entire squad to mass report you hate her

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Here's the issue though, we can't agree that Healthcare is for everyone. It that disability accommodation is reasonable. That mental health should be destigmatized. To treat animals and children and the elderly and homeless or those escaping abuse with care. That the LBGTQIA+ community should have the rights as everyone else.

If we can't agree that our most vulnerable populations should be cared for and treated with respect and dignity, why would we think that they're going to do so about a population that is *not* vulnerable in their minds?

Mutants, like any minority group, should have equal rights, protections, access to accommodation and Healthcare and everything else. But we're struggling with what should be basics. That doesn't mean you stop working towards your goals, every step you take makes it one less step for those that come after you, but this is a marathon not a sprint. We have a long way to go before mutants can take what we should already have simply by being born.

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You know, I don't like people who throw around big words and education as a way of shutting down marginalised voices.

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Are you literally saying "we're not perfect yet, so suffer in your jocks"?

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Now don't get me wrong about agreeing with this woman's whole "so as not to disturb the peace" talk, but ain't there something to be said for limits? I don't got much of a clue what those limits would be, and I doubt I'd agree with her, but I can see there being limits to what folks can do. And maybe that starts with training so that people are able to impose their own limits on their powers. I mean, weren't this place originally a school and that was part of it? Not to speak ill of our quite possibly ill herself visitor, but her powers were able to make it so you couldn't hardly trust the world around you to be as it was two minutes ago. What gives her the right to change the world at her will- and whats the harm of teaching someone with powers like that how to control 'em and that there is a time and place for control?

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You are speaking of exercising control in the greater context of human society. Meanwhile, Liam and I were taken in broad daylight and hunted for sport because we visited Central Park as visible mutants. I'll care about the benefits of incremental change when Liam's done with the physical therapy he has to do just for existing.

If human society insists on limits, they can go first.

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Ah, "we must prove ourselves a peaceful people, we must give ordinary humans respect, compliance, and understanding."

Except that they'll always hate us. That's the first lesson. We'll never live in a world of peace, not if we play the flatscans' games.

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I am always told that acting human is something I must learn to make the social experience easier, yet I was attacked when I was human and dressed the most appropriately. I had not even tried to climb a tree.

Our stakes are our lives. The stakes for humankind is being made uncomfortable. Somehow I can't bring myself to care.

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you know, for being nonbinary, you certainly see things in black and white.

maybe you need to see in shades of purple.

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Because forcing marginalized people to conform to societal expectations has historically gone so well and never hurt anyone. Can’t believe there’s people still arguing that “don’t rock the boat” is going to help anyone.

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Right??? And yet.

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It's fuckin' exhausting to watch everyone turn on their own beliefs to pile onto someone who has more skin in the literal game for being -kinda- pissed about this.

Jesus I thought better of most of you people

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people are always hating some group or another for whatever reason or another.

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You and I need to talk.

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I am certain this woman will be most upset when the lion is eating her face. "But I agree with you!" she will cry as she is mauled. "I'm one of you! I believe the lion is superior!" She will choke to death on the blood of her own self-hatred.

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